Taking a piss while out in nature: Do you feel the urge?

Original posted question on  Dudenude.com 11 May 2007, 12:28

I don't know why but if I had my choice I'd piss outdoors all the time. When I'm at home and need to take a piss almost always walk out on the back deck or front porch and take a piss. Anyone else feel the same way?

Reply from another member (in Australia)

Yes I do all the time - I never go inside. We have a severe drought here in Australia - even down here in Tasmania (the little island at the bottom of Australia) we are on tank water and if it saves 15 litres of water per flush,  I am going to pee outside.

My response to this discussion:

        I was talking about this the other day with a couple of younger men - who love camping and hiking and who said they always felt great taking a piss while out in nature and the wide open. We agreed that it was almost compelling to take a leak while in the great outdoors.  I think it's an ancestral male behavior - marking our territory like today's canines and our other four-footed brethren- perhaps dating from our primordial pre-human forms as earlier species (enough of that hypothesizing).

       It does feel good to take a piss outdoors - I try to do it at least once a day.   I think that when we are growing up - especially in societies where knowledge or view of bodily functions is suppressed (like puritanical America or some religiously-repressed nations (not to be named)), we don't get a much of a chance to see the hidden and darkly secretive 'word' of the penis/pissing/etc.. so those basic human body functions are shrouded in mystery and probably also get more sexual attachment than they would or should deserve.

  For me, pissing with my friends was a way to share a common sense of our gender  - boys being boys and baring all meant we could also afford to share other things - like our feelings and fears and joys and sometimes pleasures.

 It seems there is a resurgence of sexual fetishism for peeing, pissing, in today's more liberally minded youth - perhaps as a fundamental response to what happened after the first waves of the AIDS epidemic hit the US (and world).   I've heard that because of the need to 'protect' privacy and morals by upholding so-called 'family values', growing boys and girls are less likely to see nude humans bodies in natural setting (gyms, locker rooms, skinny dipping, etc) - the only way they see nakedness is the only associate it with sexual behavior - which is pandemic on the Internet.

 Hey to that guy in Australia. I have a idea that would be HOT! I'd be happy to try a recycling project to help Tasmania survive its current drought - sucking up your body-water and then letting someone do the same back (from me).

       Before you all, cry out 'Gross' - remember Dune (Frank Herbert' sci-fi novel series located on a distant desert planet which was almost completely without water (except collected water vapor).

So the Fremen, the indigenous tribal natives wore body suits (stillsuits) that allowed them to collect and recycle (drink) their own purified urine and body perspiration.

   Actually, I venture to bet that many - if not most guys - have at some time in the lives - probably as maturing teens or pre-teen boys - tried tasting your own piss.

CMNM is a not only about men liking men: It's a male bonding ritual

CMNM is a not only about men liking men: It's a male bonding ritual
       
Loving to be with guys who are naked (or being naked with guys who aren't).... that's the core of what CMNM (clothed male / naked male) situations are all about.

Some (of us) are really in to it.. and seek out such situations whenever possible - of course, it's a gay thing for many of us.

By the way, it is NOT ONLY about homosexual attraction. I could go on and on... but men need (and enjoy) using nudity between themselves and in groups of men (like sports teams, fraternity, army/military, clics and groups of buddies, while in temporary all male situations, such as camping, scouting, etc) and have done it since the beginning of societies... (I'm not talking physical desire or lust between men) to express friendship, belonging to a group, male affection and camaraderie, and dependence/interdependence, control/authority, loyal, leadership, bravura/machismo, and platonic or brotherly love.

I think almost every guy has some times (or even a lot) when he wants to see them naked or be seen naked by his buddies. It's part of identifying with being a man. We've had this discussion in bits and pieces many times on this forum before.  When you absolutely 'need' to be naked or be the clothed guy around naked ones (for various reasons - different for every person) then you are said to be into CMNM or have it as a fetish (if you need it to get off).


I've gone forward (evolved?) in exploring CMNM in myself, and also socially. I have set up many online CMNM groups, and have been trying to organize off-line real CMNM events, meet-ups, parties, etc.

I have a regular blog devoted to the subject: Guys Into CMNM at:
guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com

and on Facebook Page: Guys Into CMNM page at:
www.facebook.com/guysn2cmnm


For those who might in Hawaii this Xmas/New Year's, we are organizing the Hawaii CMNM Festa on Xmas weekend (Dec 25-2 in Waikiki Beach, Honolulu (Oahu), Hawaii.

Find out more at in my JUB blog posts  or at the CMNM Festa Invitation page on Eventbrite.

https://www.eventbrite.com/o/club-cmnm-2813880240
or
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/blogs/49298-sunbuns99 (for on-going updates on the CMNN Festa events as they develop)

If there's enough participation (well in advance), we'll be hiring stripper, and clothed/costumed performers for parties / CMNM role-playing at a private residence. Some events are public or low cost, others required advance booking.

You can also keep up with updates on the CMNM Twitter:
twitter.com/cmnm
or read updates as they are posted/re-posted and tweeted at:
 
http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com
http://cmnmguys.tumblr.com/

On JustUsBoys, you can join our CMNM group there:
http://www.justusboys.com/forum/group.php?groupid=40

Hope you can 'show' up! (ha ha), but some day there may be a CMNM Festa Event near you. )

Kelly, organizer -- You can also read about this and more CMNM posts in my JUB blog or visit:
Guys Into CMNM
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The spirit is willing but the flash is weak-- day and night. http://sunbuns.blogspot.com

NOTE: It appears I was just deleted from facist facebook (FB) for doing what I don't know. I was just attempting to encourage another friend who had been deleted just a little while ago. Fortunately, there are several other people who can take over for me in the various CMNM groups, pages, and application in Face(ist)Book.

A "classic" CMNM experience and its meaning explored

These are the 'real' guys who really do it for me... like in this CMNM photo.

It's a classic (NON-sexual) situation - but for the 'trained' observer (and practitioner of CMNM(clothed male naked male) .. this is very hot. It's a photo that has story - a set of relationships - buddy-to-buddy and in a group..
It's about being naked (because of and for the benefit of others ) for uniquely for reasons that are different for each person in the room.
And it''s about having fun. They are dancing and naked with friends -- not so much ashamed as just shy or reluctant to brag or show off - but still just enough to want to... the hot young bodies make it the whole scene even more eye-catching and attractive...

The second photo is another classic CMNM example. The guys are just being boys and doing 'what boys do' but so often it involved playful sexually-suggested aggressive behavior. Although he appears to be just all in fun,  it's really a lot more about the sensuality of male sex. Sometimes, I'd dare say a lot more than could ever be admitted by them (although eventually 'one' will grow up and confess otherwise).. there is a lot more sexual attraction and downright flirtation in these 'naked fights' than meets the eye.

A recent posting (today or last night) was definitely a CMNM experience and not simply male-to-male flashing.
stephen wrote:    I'm a VERY straight looking and acting Bi guy and LOVE getting seen naked by straight men. I really enjoy having Workmen, Truck Drivers etc see me in the buff. I keep it TOTALLY straight though.

I recently went for a bike ride on a hot day, and came accross a Truck Stop. There was a Truck Driver washing his truck. The area was kinda hidden from the main road. I asked the Driver if there were any taps around to cool off. He pointed one out next to his truck.

I stripped off and had a shower under the hose! He knew i was naked, and it was obvious he didn't care, nor was interested- PERFECT!

I then walked up to him starkers and started chatting while drying off.
I love this sort of thing, nothing sexual- just Blokey nudity!
Anyone else into the same?

Forgive me for crossing posting.... but this CNMN thread was far down the list (and probably NOT going to be read unless it has a 'new' posting)

The above story by Stephen is the kind of non self-gratifying erotic or intimate experience (no or little arousal or orgasmic climax - at least not then - maybe later) is exactly what I've been talking about (on this site and others and my new blog) - as the classic CMNM experience.

  Sports team member is stripped and shows off for the coaches and staff members. [Caption for photo above.]

I think it comes from a basic need for most (gay or str8 ) males to express intimacy between

themselves and other men - - it's not just sexual lust (although it certainly can be and - for some people -- it IS a large part of it - for others, perhaps like Stephen - it is not - it's more social and psychological or emotional.

So. .CMNM is using 'nudity' to symbolize and actualize this intimacy. Think about it... what could be MORE intimate than bearing your nude body to another guy (clothed or not) - it's a kind of symbolic act - NOT SUBMISSIVE either -' although for some guys it could be )-- but it's like saying: "Hey, dude. I am me - see me as I am and accept me for what and who I am. I want to be your buddy and for you to be mine."

Often times, it is easier for guys to start to really communicate once one of them has 'bared' his 

soul and his body to his buddy (or even a new friend or stranger)..... We can see this theme repeated over and over again on the different posts on this board....      CMNM occurs when one male 'needs' to be nude - actually naked - and the other guy(s) are clothed - they are apparently NON-plussed by the fact of the nudity or just oblivious, unconcerned or feigning disinterest. For some the 'clothed' person becomes an object of desire IF he seems to be interested and excited by the sight of the nudity - other's seem to get their rocks off by the embarrassment that such causes to the clothed viewer.. all these are simply variations on the basic theme.  

I know somebody is going to say I'm over intellectualizing - I can agree with that... but no matter how much I 'talk' / lecture - or NOT... it doesn't change the fact that male-to-male intimacy and the lack of it is at the core of what drives us to return to this site and these discussion and to tell our stories and experiences...

Stephen's experience is what I call what I call an 'authentic' CMNM experience
It's not really about flashing, which is a specific kind and more directed or focused sexual experience than the one that Stephen is describing above.

For more info see my blog (or contribute to it):
  Guys into CMNM (on Blogger)

 http://guysn2cmnm.blogspot.com